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Thank you very much for your commitment! ====================================================================== So this talk is about public libraries, perhaps some of you still remember, perhaps some of you have been in one once. They are sources of free knowledge, something which the Internet is also for us especially. The Internet brought a lot of new possibilities. To get informed, everybody can access it, libraries once where exactly this is the way to get informed, but with the possibilities of the Internet and e-books and everything showing up, libraries get lost on the way. Maysam, as we talk about this and I really ask you to welcome him with a heartwarming applause. OK, good. So, hey, I'll start I'll start a little bit from from behind from the history. So 15 years ago after the dotcom crash, we thought that the year of the Linux desktop will is just about corner. It will just happen any time. And then we also thought that the venture capital learned the lesson of blowing up the bubble out of any out of proportion a few years later. I think if I remember correctly, that that was actually the keynote in Berlin at the CCC. Ebon Mogollon gave a lecture, which I still remember as one of the best lectures ever, and he proclaimed that we won, that we won and liberated the world of software. There was two thousand four, I think the world of software, the world of hardware, and that the next world we should win is the world of radio spectrum. And radio spectrum is important because that's the very medium medium where the the tragedy of commons is not really like is not present as as we know in the world of land. That's why we thought that the next one is, is the radio radio frequency spectrum. And then it took four years and Google brought Gmail, then YouTube appeared and then delicious. If anyone remembers that it brought us Foxon to me than Twitter was just about to get its full momentum. And the same happened for Facebook and that was the peak of that. So this was the year 2006 and it was the peak of what Silicon Valley celebrated and preached for so long. So venture cap ital would invest into free software startups and many of these startups would become successful. Then they will be bought by large corporations, which had great kindergartens and coffee machines and also do not evil. The age of Attention Economy provides user service services for free and technical infrastructure, sustainable finance support from the advertisers. It took a few more years before the open Internet as we knew it became the graveyard grave graveyard of abandoned open protocols. And as my. As my friend Damian said in a tweet, a very good one. Yeah, so, yeah, well, Microsoft never succeeded a million startups replacing open Internet protocols with proprietary. So we lost around 2009, if anyone remembers the Google waves. And that was probably the last kind of utopian or whatever enthusiastic open protocol kind of project. Then we lost Exxon, BP. We lost our sense. We lost voice over IP, we lost federation, we lost distribution, we lost the autonomy. When I said lost again, it's it's it's complicated, as you know. And I must admit, in in 2006, I was fascinated with that landscape, at least because of my skeptical social our environment. I wanted to research that phenomenon more. And then I applied for Jianwen like Academy with research called Ruling Class Studies, and I got a research position. And then I started to work on methodological methodology or how to understand and analyze. These tech giants are the new class which which literally writes the rules, how to, how to run stuff. So I started to profile Google and Amazon and here is just one of the examples. From 2000. From from 2011. So it was at the Media Lab, Prather's I use someone else's JavaScript, don't be impressed with my JavaScript kung fu. But what I did here, what I try to do is kind of explain what's the scope was the scale of of of Google. And then I was trying to see, OK, what's the relation to free software? How much of that software stack is actually written as a free software and how much of that is written by Google and then try to come up with some kind of approximation of how much time, how many developers and how much money you would need in 2011 if you wanted to if you wanted to write the software stack off of Google. And you can see some of the numbers from that time. But at the end, it was just like I kind of rounded it and it was more like 12 years of development, a billion dollars just for software stack and a thousand developers also kind of like organizing it so that they can do some things in parallel. Anyway, that was that was what I was doing in 2000 and 2000, 11, and also did some some stuff about Amazon and whatnot. But in order to write text and that's what they kind of what they expected me to do and not just a Python scripts and JavaScript, I had to read more in order to write more. I need to read more. So not any more. Just technical specification, but also like the books that theory books and Java, like, was one of the best places in the world for that. The best bunch of Marx's Lacanian Psaltis areas J'accuse not. And so, so I had like a very good, very good environment there. And they read the books a lot. And also they just like everyone, especially at that time they were downloading books from Wikipedia, my fellow researchers in 2000 11. And that was from Wikipedia and Library Library and you. But when I would ask them, what do they have on their hard disks? What are the books they have, they wouldn't really know. And then they would just admit that that one, they need a book. They probably have it on their hard disk in a very messy directory. But they would just go to the to library and you and download it again. And I mean, a few people here can understand that I was not really kind of happy that that's how things should be done. And then I. And then I. Oh, no more. There is a literature books. Sorry, I didn't. I'm sorry, I just download the wrong euro, but it will be back in a second, just a second blog. I have it her e. Cable companies, it's here now, mind you, one of my friends here always ask me how why I don't do the what's the name, the Microsoft PowerPoint. And I'm sorry, I really can't remember. It was not like and that's what I do. So he says, like, how can you be convenient, confident that much. But I'm not I'm scared, as you know, it's kind of it doesn't work. But anyway, it was just like after after less than than a month at Yanmei, like I wrote a blog post, lecture books. And then I tried also to explain a few things. So it was not just the how to, but it was also kind of a little bit performative in kind of making a mediatory kind of lecture what can be done. And then it's good if you do like if you are very kind of meticulous and then if you do like the proper kind of manual, the title of the book and then the auteur, things like that, and then you can do this in your terminal and then you can send me this text file and then I will know what are the books you have, of course, that no one would ever do that. But I just tried to explain what how hard it can be done and then also introduced what are the resources where you can actually find the good metadata for the for the books? And also I found out great software, which is called Culebra and and and realized that in Culebra you can really just with one click, you can bring all of the metadata from from Internet. So you have a book you've downloaded from Library Neun. It's still 2011 and then you download that and then you get it there. And that's that's used to be quite a hard job. If you were not on digital networks and having the software, if you were like a librarian from from from before. But what was even better was that that that you could also run a Web server from that Culebra. So what I was doing is that, yeah, there is one small thing before in 2012, in the beginning library that a new PDA was shut down by the court case and and everybody panicked. All of my friends, they they didn't know how to handle the ir message directories. And so everybody around Facebook was like already kind of quite popular. And you could see that people were freaking out because Wikipedia is not anymore there. And I had a few things in place at that time. And I started to I started to share my Culebra library. So what I was doing is that I, I would run this Web server in Culebra and just second. From Marks, it's kind of hard to. Copy text still. Let's try to do that here. It's good that it works. This, yeah, so what I was doing is that I just like use this little line in my terminal and what it will allow me is that I would just say, OK, when I'm running that Web server from my Culebra, then I will just like tunnel it or just like send it to my server. And I had access to a few servers and then people would be able to get my to get my library. Just putting something like this. In the brothers and what they would do, they would just access my my Calibra from my laptop and I would get the books and then they were interested. Hmm, for sure. And I liked it. And I also realized that I just became I became kind of an amateur librarian where people, because they didn't know about you don't need to like, copy this line. I'll show you, like now it's kind of much, much better. It's much easier to do that. Yeah. So so I became amateur librarian. I liked it. My friends liked it and I realized that. That something else could be done? I could imagine that what's happening? What's happening to the library world is what was already happening to other to other worlds when there is one, when the software just like enters the field. So in that sense, that's what already happened in design after Photoshop, it happened to journalism. After WordPress, it happened to advertisement after Edwards, it happened to photography after Instagram. So in a way, you can imagine that the Calibra being a very simple tool and very easy to use is the way how you can just like do the libraries today. And then if you share it and if many people are doing that, then you would just end up with the public library as as as we know, for like more than a hundred and fifty years or at least like hundreds and a few decades. So that's that's what what we could what we could do. So I'll just show you a little a little video here. And that's what I imagined for the libraries. So this is the. This is sadly at home, and that was at one moment the biggest distributed computer in the world, and that was where people would just run the screen savers in order to have the science and like crunched some numbers. And a lot of people were quite enthusiastic about that. And this is how amateurs and scientists, amateurs and professionals could work happily and for the benefit of the society. So this is what I was what I was thinking about. OK, but then the regenesis of fire, the story behind me, as I told you, it never works, but extubate. It's not shut down. OK, so let's see. OK, 15 minutes. That's fine. So then it didn't really work. So my blog post, as you saw it, didn't really work for my friends. No one was really doing that. Also, no one had access to servers and they were always very scared from the terminal. So they like to type text into Google's search bar, but they don't like to type text into the terminal. It's not a big difference, but emotionally, I think that it's huge. So I'll just show you. I'll just show you what I did at a time. So this was the first version of what I did at that time, so you have a command line and then it was because I didn't know better the time you would also need like a gibber account and then you would kind of like any Gerba account. But then I didn't know how to handle it was not super secure because I could get whatever password. So it wasn't really secure at the time. But what it worked is that if you would run this in your in your terminal, your your library would just get online and and people could use it. And then a few people actually started to use it. And my fri end Anthony ause he got like super enthusiastic about it and he was he was using that OK. And I was happy so that that provided me some time and motivation to. Yeah. The quotes, few shortcuts for full screen, they're all different. And then Damien then Damien showed me something. You remember the guy from the tweet, he showed me something. I'll just use it here again. In English people, so he showed me this and what he said is that I'm sorry, it needs it needs zero here. So what he told me is that you can actually send the zero to the server and then server will give you the whatever the port for your tunnel. And then if you do a little bit of the magic of the sad like here, then you can just like make a make another command line interface, which will be just kind of simpler. You would also need to do something like this, like couple of lines in your engine X, which will just like whenever you go into WWE, double the number of support. If there is a tunnel there, it will get there. If there is no, then it will just tell you bad gateway or whatever. You can just like make a custom e-mail for that. So it was kind of moving. It was kind of moving. And I'll show you I'll show you another thing which was already better. It got on GitHub and yeah, and then it's a video, because I'm just a little bit more scared of a lot of so you start the contest in Culebra and then you go back. So it's like already happening. And then you go back and then you do the lecture books in your terminal. And then in that terminal it will just like make that tunnel and it's still come online. But for myself, it was just like you can see that it's easier. So there is no Jabor account. So it's kind of getting further in order to please people who want to do safety at home, but they don't want to do like user logging and things like that. So this is just like this is just a much, much easier because there is no login, but you still need to type something into a terminal. And then you can also see here that chat is working. And also you don't need to you know, you don't need to log in. So in a way, it's getting there and you can be even some kind of pseudo identity there. You can you can you can develop your persona and then you can, like, chat with people. You can send your your URL. So it's getting there. It's kind of getting in the direction of Forseti at home. As as as I as I as I showed you and about that time, about the time I got I got an invitation to curate the new media festival HYP in Ljubljana. And usually when you are curator, you make some fancy concept, you make an open call, and then you would just like send a lot of spare messages to all of your artist friends so that they have to do that so that you actually end up with a good exhibition and the works are really not bad. But the bad thing was that I really didn't know what's going on in the new media art or whatever, and I was completely obsessed with the public life. I'm not really good programmers, so these kind of things are taking quite some time. For me. It's kind of like months thinking about it. So what I what I what I proposed is that, OK, let's let's let's set up a public library. So the public library is, as we know, is the place where we go and get the knowledge. And then it's based on the idea of I'll just show you that this was basically the proposal. The public library is free access to books for every member of society. It changed a little bit later. So now we use more free access to knowledge for every member of society. It's a library catalog. It's a librarian with books ready to be shared, meticulously cataloged. Everyone is the librarian. When everyone is a librarian, library, library is everywhere. And and that was kind of that resonated. These these people are tee'd like into left these kind of things. And then we we we we started doing that. And then what we did is we also showed. So in order to make an ambiance for that a library is that we wanted to show that it's alr eady happening. So it's not just that we are doing that, but but it's already happening. Some of that is ahk. Yeah, this is ARC around like 40, 50 thousand books, let's say around more than one hundred thousand users. It's kind of forum based user users are uploading everyday books. You can see this and then these books get it's whatever place there is. It's you can do the research. You can collect it into the. Let's do the. Collections, you can see what kind of collections, how much of the books you can see, it's also not like a great librarians. We can see that it started with like different whatever. Then there is the Mona Scott, which is also a great, great thing. And much more people heard about Ubu unmovable. But motocorp is kind of better, and Kenneth Goldsmith would say the same, so more scope is vickki for collaborative studies of the arts, media and humanities mostly, or at least at the beginning, it was focused on Eastern Europe and Central Europe, avant garde, new avant garde and things like that. And it does look amazing, amazing kind of thing. So I'll just show you one page here. It's like avant garde modernist magazines. And then there is, of course. There's some tax, but then you can see all of these covers, and the great thing is that you can also download all of them. So this is how we imagine the how we how we imagine the public library, remember the universal access to books, a universal universal access to. Then Ubu, it's probably like much more along the Kenneth Goldsmith, it started in 1996. Next year there will be like 20, 20 years, 20 years of this project. And it's the best and probably the most kind of well known archive of the avant garde, avant garde art on an Internet. So what was happening there is that we we we brought and made this kind of set up. We kind of tried to show the show people what what the public library could be. And this is just Brian did it since here he did how art and Library Genesis are different. And I'll just show you something. So this is these are heroes. I'm pretty sure that you know about them, a library genesis. And at the time, it was around like a million million of the books. We had around like 11 terabytes to download, and it took quite a couple of weeks in order to get it. So what we had there is that we had the ambient saying, like we have a million of books in this space and people would be like, yeah, this is great. So even we have it on Internet, just having like a mirror nearby. And we also had like a posters with with the QR codes. You could go with your mobile phone and download. It was like super quick because it was, of course, like the local, local, local mirror and people started to do things like this. This was just a joke. It was mainly the joke was like how much time one would need to make something like this. So this is just like overlap in between Library Genesis and arge. And then if you click on that, the links. Yes, of course it doesn't work anymore because Libyan dot org got shut down, but we will get back to that later. So these are the things which are happening. And then, for example, Robert Oxhorn. Did a few things, he's amazing, and then, for example, Monaco did this, so it's from the discus networks of Hitler and then it just like made manually the index or whole of all of the people. And then when you click on this. Then you go into the experimental, rather experimental view. Oh, no, I think that I would bring Chrom now. Yeah. So you can see so it brings you to the to the very kind of reference in the book, and it's done for one book for Discourse Networks of Hitler and these interfaces. Yeah, you can see it's kind of it's kind of nice. It's kind of like it provokes you to think, it provokes you to experiment. It provokes you to play. But this can only happen if we have that local mirror because. No, no, no, no. For hackers really want to wait for all of the metadata and things like that. So these are just like few things which which happ ened in your Bianna. OK, I'm still good. And then it kind of made me do more, I also kind of OK, I have to do more. These guys are so great. So this is the aggregation website. It's called Library Memory of the World that was doing that last night. All of these flickering is because I don't know how to encode things. So I don't know which is worse if I do that live or if I just do the videos. But so there are no animations really here. When you see them, it's it's not happening. So. So this is what I did. So from the before you remember that the command line, it's one line I could do that. No one else, like few people can do that. And I made it into the command line. But you need to log in and then I change that so you don't have to login. And then finally after novae sudden and of go through, it was like complaining and saying like, but we are civilians. We we we don't go to Termina. And I'm like, OK, whatever. It took me like a couple of months in order to bring the plug in into into Calibra. And what plugin does is that? When you click on start sharing, it starts sharing. It does exactly the same thing. It's just that it's gooey. And then it also gets you into the into the into the chat. And then you can see that your books are here. You can see that now it's not 11 librarians, but it's like 12 librarians. And one of these is can it book for your book for your is a guy from Library Genesis. All of the names are shuffled from the big list of the of the great librarians. And you can see now I go like back and forth. You can see this is the same. So if you go and download it from Internet, what will actually happen is that it will download from the very laptop which started that. So the metadata gets into the Mongo DB, whoever likes that kind of vocabulary, and then it's kind of faster. But the download actually happens from the let's say like a peer to peer. This is another librarian. It can if you use and it's cok, it's digitized library in Mammo Zagreb. This is w here I'm coming from then. This is by yeah. This is by a politics which I made for my friend who who made a great curriculum and then she can use it for her students. But what I also edited this is called Bloodstone Alchemist, used to use it for the is the word for the magnet. So it's kind of like a book while it looks like sharing and all of that. So it's when you're on the on the Web page, it's an important book directly to calibrate. So that means that when you're on the website, on the Web website and you have the plug in calibrate, it will recognize what's the in the in the back. And then you can see that it just got with all of the metadata. So in a way it's kind of a peer to peer, but it's not the gated community. It's also very exposed to the it's very exposed to the world. So at the moment when you are doing this, it's. Yeah, it's it's. Yeah. It's kind of a peer to peer with the access from the public. That's why it's public library, why it's not like a peer to peer, whatever. What did I what I was like showing here? Let me see a few more of these. Never mind. Then I'll show you like, OK, so how to get further. So this is the idea. So I set up a server, but today you can also and this is still in the phase of the 2011 Kapiloff command line line. So what we have here is that we have everything. What you need to run a memory of the road is kind of packed up into something which is fancy these days. It's called containers and Dockers. And then if you use this, then you can see there is mongered. There is where, Bob? There is a chat, the chat server presently there is engine X and these are composed for. Yeah. And this is one of the providers, this is called Digital Ocean. So digital oceans don't tell you because they know that you are scared from the terminal. So they don't call it a virtual machine, which they call it droplet. So I don't have a droplet here, but I will make it. So what I do here, I just this is one line command line I make the machine create on digital ocean. You can see the token even if you like recording this, but yeah, whatever. And then it's making that. So it's making digital ocean droplets. So it's making a virtual server on their infrastructure. You will see just in a second. It's here, it's called Aliceville at Cherbourg's Ocean, LSP Ocean. And what I'm actually making here is that everything, what I can do locally, everything what I do for my server. Now I'm saying, OK, now, from now on, whatever you do in this terminal, just do on the digital ocean. That's what I'm making. This is another command line. So this is like a second one which which we did here. And then, OK, this is kind of slow. Yeah. Now I'm making another docker, which is just like the one which is the Linux image, which will be shared with all of the other images later on. It's kind of a composition of a couple of different services. And this is where we where we are getting it shows that, yeah, it happened. And then I say build more building, whatever. Then I'm just like starting it up and you have to see the scrolling text. This is very exciting. Once I was crying when I saw it at C.C.C., when they did the first SMS gateway, if you remember, like almost ten years ago, it was just like the end of the lecture. And the only thing which we could see is the scrolling text we were stressing on the free software, whatever base. And yeah. So this is exciting. So what I did when you when you are running that is with a completely different domain, then if you go to third thought that new domain in this in this case, you have no confusion, then you get your confusion. It's a dot org. You can see it's self sign, whatever if you like. So this is if you want to make completely your own memory of the world. So this is how easy is this? So couple of terminal command lines and then you have everything set up. So it takes not more than 15 minutes and you can see that now. It just works everything. What worked in on the memory of the world. So what I'm showing you this because this is the vision. This is what we can do. This is how fast or how far we can go. And I'm sure that John Gerber, who's doing another great software, it's called Open Media Library. Check it out. It's a peer to peer for sharing books. I'm really excited about when it will come out so he can do at least ten times faster what I what I do. So in a way, this is easy. It took me a few years and I was not only doing that, I most of the time I do nothing but. But but this is what, what, what, what I'm not what what I'm trying to show you here. And it seems that it seems that it's yeah. The world is not really ready for these visions. So what we were really kind of experiencing is that there is a certain kind of schizophrenia. So I mean, new media remedy, age old media, media pay on my. To their media producers, which themselves pay homage to their own media predecessors, Computer Graphics Remedy AIDS film, which imitates photography, which imitates painting, attempts to understand new media technologies always thoughtfully settle on a set of metaphors of the old and familiar to approximate what is similar and yet rests upon the liminal edge of these metaphors. To play with these insights into the new, every chosen metaphor has its semiotic distance decay or inverse square law, which shows how far it can carry understanding and insights into the given phenomena. The intellectual work in the age of mechanical reproduction got its unfortunate metaphor intellectual property and as the age of mechanical reproduction was becoming more and more the age of discrete and digital reproduction. Another metaphor was emerging, a metaphor which reveals the quandary left after the decades of decay of intellectual property, exponentially distancing itself from the intellectual work proper. And that metaphor is schizophrenia. So, yeah, I'll just skip a couple of these and I'll show you a few. I'll tell you about a few examples of capitalism. And she's Affin ia. So Sony Music. Sony is a great a great example. So. Sony started, I'll also skip this, I'll just explain in a few words, it usually is longer than reading. But anyway, so Sony had that famous a court case in in 1984. It's called Betamax case. That means that they just made like a video recorder. And then Jack Valenti, who was the head of the Motion Picture Association of America, he was saying, oh, video recording video recorder is like Jack the Ripper for the women and things like that. So it was like they were freaking out. But Sony won in a sense, and they kind of settle the ground for the technology not to be that easily shut down. And, you know, the Walkman and CD, DVD and and all kind of hardware which Sony made, which allowed us to copy and share. But then only five years later, in 1989, Sony bought its first major Hollywood studio, Columbia Pictures. And then a year later, they also bought like Sony BMG. And then they were suing Joel Tenenbaum for downloading and then sharing 31 songs in 2009. And the jury awarded 675 thousands to the music companies. And that was like a twenty two thousand per song. And it's known as the second file sharing case. The first file sharing case was about 24 songs. And in second trial, jury awarded music companies and two million. Basically, it's too long to read it. It's 80000 per song. And Jamie Thomas was a Native American mother of four from Brainerd, Minnesota, and worked at the time as a natural resource coordinator for the Miller Band of Indians. And then Sony has quite a few conflicts under its own umbrella. And that's what we know about capitalism and schizophrenia, of course. But we don't care that Sony, that Sony's problem, whatever they hold, however, they did deal with their conflicts. But then there is another one, which when it happens, it's kind of disturbance. And that's the one with Amitay. So, Amity, you all know, I'm sure, all of Heggs, the founding fathers of hacking fire truck on top of whatever replica of campus police car on the roof of the great dorm. They were having quite a few of their, like, books on that. They started Open Courseware in 2002 to publish all, of course, materials online and make them widely available to everyone. Then the World Wide Web Consortium in 1993, One Laptop Per Child in 2005. So and they were also very well known that that their open campus wireless network was was was always open to the paywall. Journalists like a severely Blackwall, Springer, Taylor, Francis, Little Francis Sage and the others. And we know how they how they generated to be a very, very big tragedy at one moment. But also at the same time, in the corner at MIT Press published numerous books which we love and which were very constituting for for us in public library. One of them is paper machines about cards and catalogs. So the idea, the development of the catalog is very important. And it goes yeah, it goes pretty, pretty close to the to the computer. And that's why the librarianship as as resources is super important. That's what we learned from MIT Press book by Marcus Krajewski. Then Eric von Hippel, democratizing innovation. Then Svenne speakers the big Urca art from bureaucracy. Then send me a text. Yeah, it's kind of facing any schism would be quite hard without the similar text. Then cybernetic revolutionaries imagine a possession or Borys is art, power and and the way how we are articulating that it's not only me here, it was kind of like a convincing and part of these softwares which I was writing. So all together is like convincing quite a few people. So we got exhibited at Reina Sofia Museum, which is a very fancy one, transmedia Gustafer. I stood guard at twenty two in London. Ninety eight weeks. It was all I had, opening keynote at the Tombs of Media, the Brown University. So in a way it was quite successful projects. So also it was a big honor, but not that big of a surprise that we got. We got an invitation to write for Tactical Media Anthology, an d that's supposed to be published by MIT Press. So I just show. You I'll show you that contract. So this is how it looks like, and you can see that you will not receive any Fiorelli for the contribution, of course the labor is not recognized and then you have. Not really, not many rights, in a way, that's how the scientific publishing work today, and that's what we got. But we were like, oh yeah, fine, great, yeah. MIT Press, Tactical Media, that's what we love. We'll write something about a public library. And we had an idea to write about schizophrenia. And what I was reading just minutes before that was from the text, which is supposed to be published in these tactical media ontology. But three weeks later, we also got this and for the art cover by Boris Gross, which I just mentioned before. So it's copyrighted. This is not from MIT Press. This is just like I cannot have in my email. So what happened is that very schizophrenic situation happened in the very in the very situation with the Amitay. And it's not a surprise. So what I'm what I'm trying to say is not a Amitay here is in particular evil. It's just that when you have completely non appropriate. Metaphore. Embedded into the legal regulation, you will necessarily end up with a schizophrenic subject when it happens to Sony. We don't care, but when it happens to MITI, we care. And the consequences of people who are living, who are working, who are inspired, who are part of that orbits around the MITTIE, that's that's that's very dangerous. But Gross is also well known to be to be a guy who called Jesus Christ the first ready made art. And when he talks about the new because when he appeared supposedly Nieporent to the Earth, he was like a human. And then it's great that this is like this is. No, it's not it's not Christmas today. Right. Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, he agreed as a human and then later on he kind of appeared as a God, so completely different. So this is what is new. You never know when you see it. It's not that you that you didn't see something from before, but only in retrospect, if you can see that something was new. So in that sense, he's a very good writer on avant garde art, especially on a Russian abogado. Also, I recommend from very far from from this book, I recommend I recommend article essay on privatization, especially because privatization, he proves there is it's just like as artificial as nationalization. When Communists got there and had a quite good argument why we should also care about people being equal through the economic redistribution, not only through the access to knowledge. Rich liberals, as we can see, also like completely like fucking this up. So in that sense, when that happened, people would say it was artificial and a civilization was artificial. But but but but privatization was just as artificial as as nationalization. And when we come to the digital networks, then it's even more obvious. So I can tell you just a few things about the public libraries, why it's important to support it, public libraries are disappearing completely. Public libraries are not able to buy digital books from the publishers when they have money because publishers don't let them buy them when they can buy them. Then there is a very nasty technology called DRM, which will count how many times you borrow the book and then after 26 times, you have to buy it again. So as we go further, we can see the public libraries are just completely shut down working. I don't know what's going on. I only recently got. See, but I need to know that's OK. Yeah, whatever. I have no idea what's going on. OK, but then. This is what also happened, so Regenesis, which got after the Wikipedia and library that and you, together with books and science, computer science hub is much more important. They all got shut down by Elsevier and elsewhere, is well known to be a very bad guy, which makes a huge profit on mostly publicly funded researchers and selling us a couple of times som ething which was already over. And what what was happening here is, yeah, I'm sure that you all hear about that and I'll just like show you. Or maybe I can tell you that so Elsevier was like running a court case in you are again getting an injunction which will let them shut down the websites, even not reaching them because these websites are in Russia. So it's kind of hard to get there. So what they do is that they make their IP addresses of the of the of their servers into the blacklists, or they are just like taking off their domain. This is the way how they shut down most of the websites these days end up in there. They are fighting for that. This is what Elsevier is doing. And I will just finish with this. Can you try? Again, with. Without the if if you hear guitars and just like, oh, OK, I think that now you can go out and cover for the great difficulty of making sure that we can carry on as normal but carry on every piece of paper. I don't even know how to deal with that ID. If I thought that would be someone or this is this is a reading of this letter and hand and this is the letter we wrote some time in the elements. And in that letter it says basically we it brings Little Prince saying that he meets up with this man who accumulates starts with the sole purpose of being able to buy more stars. And then is that business that is of some use to my little Kano's because he's cleaning them and it is of use to my flower, which he does every day. But you have no use to the stars that you own. And we go here more with the examples of how severe is bad luck and who are the good guys and the good guys of science and liberty geniuses. And of course, and it sounds like it's just our heroine. And she says if we manage to shut down our projects or force them into The Dark Knight, demonstrated how important the public does not have the right and the knowledge and have a big hero. And unfortunately, I have only time to read you open it. Just this all from opening from Give You Open Access Manifesto by Aaron Schwab. It's a it's a it's a it's a great document. We need to take information wherever it is stored and make our copies and share them with the world. We need to take stuff that's out of copyright, the archive. We need to buy secret databases and put them on the web. We need to download scientific journals and upload them to file sharing networks. We need to fight for guerilla open access with enough of us around the world will not just send a strong message. Opposing the privatization of knowledge will make it a thing of the past. Will you join us? Yeah, I'm done. We have ten minutes for questions. Yeah, thank you very much. So thank you very much, everybody who has a question, please come up to the microphone, say, here in both ISO's. Please make sure to speak up loud and clear to everybody on the streams and also later in the morning can understand your questions. Maxygen, can you send me your URL for the discussion later? So we have a question of the Internet, do I see this right? Hello and no, this is just an announcement. Hello, I am here that there will be a discussion about this talk at eight, 30 at 14 today at eight thirty in 14. We will have a discussion about this talk. And so far, there are no questions from the Internet. OK, thank you very much. Maybe I can also announce what we would like to discuss. So. Yeah, so yeah, if there are no questions or just like raise the hand, we have a question over there, but since we are ten minutes, you can perhaps make a short announcement or just just a little bit at the end they go with a question first. Yeah. My name's Chris. Great. So OK, thanks for that. And the quote there at the end was really, really good. Have you looked into alternative methods of distribution of data, including IPS, which is the interplanetary file system by Bennets and CO? The the nice idea about that one is that it has this wonderful stigma, genic quality, which is that when you download content and y ou like it, you can spin it. So spinning is a verb, the equivalent of liking on Facebook. The difference being that now that you've pinned it, you become a host, that Faulds no need to have a fixed IP or a droplet on digital ocean. You can set up something as small as a Raspberry Pi and start serving up files, including these ebooks that you're talking about in a way that when you like some content and download it and consume it, you instantly become a host for that file. Actually looked into these these kinds of alternatives. I was in RC Channel a few times and trying to convince that I don't want to give my files and the library's first to IP first and then to Fuze. So in a way, yeah, this is this is the problem at the moment, which I see with the IP address, which needs to duplicate anything which you want to share. And I have like around 100000 books and I don't have at the moment on my laptop enough of a hard disk to make them like duplicated. So I agreed there are great technologies also that are great. Calibra, you can run it behind the Tor. We are now trying to rewrite everything with with college. DIBADJ The B where the thinking will get for free and then with web torrent as as as as true Web RTC and things like that. So that's, that's all fine. What I don't want to provide, even when I do my kind of and not really good software, I don't think that we should propose to the world a technical solution, because here we have much bigger things stake. And Alexander Bucheon was very much right about it. We need civil disobedience. We need more people to go and stand out with their names and fight politically. And then we can we can improve our infrastructures. We can we can do the federation. We can do the distribution. We can do anonymous. But that's exactly what we would like to discuss at A13 in Anarchist Village is like, should we really stick? And is it enough to stick with the with the discourse of the privacy and individualism and individual rights? Becaus e this is predominant today and in a way doesn't really support sharing. It doesn't support a solidarity as kind of a universal concept. I know all of the problems which when you bring such a kind of term, but still we need we need that and we need to do that as wide as possible. And we cannot do that with people who know how to do a block change, how to do the whatever the elliptic curves, encryption and things like that, unfortunately. But at the same time, it's not unfortunate. It's also that the world doesn't need software engineers to run their utopian fantasies. And that's why I think that IPF is great. But at the moment, when it becomes the solution, when it invites people and another round and turn of the hide and seek game with the authorities, I'm kind of against it. But when I program, I like this idea. I like to play with these ideas. It's kind of like much, much more fun to do something that complex than. Metadata, cataloging and whatever the decision of the regular expression against something else, to unify the metadata from different databases, but these are also important and we need to have more people doing that. But more than anything else, I think that it's if you have access, just as Aaron Schwartz had access to any privileged source, just like make it available, that's that's what is more important. All good. Thank you. OK, we have another question, please. So in direct response to what you just said is my question with the entire talk is what it is about, because if it's not really about the, well, KODET solution, is it more like a work of art that is to show to inspire people what would be possible if they could share their databases without actually proposing a solution? How to do it this way? Because this way seems to duplicate a lot of other efforts, like it seems to address a lot of different topics, like how to store, how to redistribute, but also how to catalog, how to synchronize catalogs. I mean, these are all very complex problems t hat have been Technip before that are tackled right now. There are solutions. But am I to understand that the point of your particular implementation was not so much as to provide a technical solution, but to show to, well, less skilled people to what would be possible to give them an easy outlook and to inspire them to find a political solution. Because I talk about wondering these these things don't seem to work. The technical solution seems handicapped in so many ways, which is perfectly fine. It's still very interesting that everybody who has ever struggled with the problem of cataloging their like e-books and stuff like that is highly appreciative of all the effort. But also we know that, well, I don't want to start yet another metadata database on my own that I can use and two friends of mine can use. And this seems to be, in a way, similar approach. But if it's about art, if it's about inspiring people, that's a great thing. And I was wondering which of the two things it tries to be. I mean, you said like, there is one thing which is super bad and the other one which is like Supergrid and I have to decide what I do. If you if I understood you correctly, yes, this is mostly inspiring, but it's not only inspiring, I think that it is important that you do. Your metadata, did you do your database that you share your books, so in that sense and whatever you use. I can agree or disagree, I can propose something else, but what we try to do here is that this is a proposal how we envision the public library. So public libraries, free access to knowledge for every member of society. It's a library catalog. We need one and we need a human being. We need a human knowledge here. And that's the librarian. So in a way, what we did with memory of the world is a colony implemented in implementation, a proof of concept or like this is kind of where what we are trying to achieve. If there is anyone else doing that, great. Use it and and try to liberate, try to make knowledge no t not any more privileged, privileged access. So in that in that sense, I wouldn't go I don't think that with this talk or what we do here that we propose as a solution, the technical one. But what we do meanwhile meanwhile, we also try to. Join the political struggles, but when there is no one, we do the fucking metadata fixing, you know, like and we download and and then there are like 25000 books and they're like 25000 more. And they are quite nice catalogs, which people did quite nice catalogs, which people curated. And that's the fruit of our work. So in that sense, I wouldn't go that hard and harsh against any technical solution. If you know any better, which kind of follows these, please tell me. IPTF is great, but it's not there yet because it duplicates the big fights in my heart is if there is some. Some other. Yeah, please. There is open media library coming. Hopefully what I ask Sebastian and Jan is like, OK, make it accessible through the Internet, not just for people for open with open media library and things like that. Thank you very much.